Im looking at arcos and this thing really blows the ISOD away. https://store.archos.com/ . This has a bigger screen and does every thing a ISOD touch can do and more. Also whats cool is you can pick up the internet from your cell phone when your not in a wifi area? F the camera really. What I like is the screen size and internet brower on this thing. Also it has FM radio which we are still dreaming about on the SOD touch! As far as music is concered I will just keep the I SOD touch 2 gen and pick the music off of it. Games? If I want games I play 360 or p3s or psp..