Will the next firmware permanently break jailbreak?

Discussion in 'iPod touch 1.1.x Jailbreak' started by adamscybot, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. adamscybot

    adamscybot New Member

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    I have a question.

    Do you think that when the next firmware for the touch is released it will break jailbreak? Of course, for those who already have jailbroken pods - they don't have to update.

    But I am considering buying a touch but can't right now (money

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    ) and I will only buy one if I can jailbreak it.

    Would apple go as far as to completely block downgrading? Its not so much that they might release a FW that is difficult/impossible to crack - but if they completely stop us from downgrading meaning all new players can't be jailbroken.

    Will that ever happen? Could they even do it?

    Adam
  2. fraggle768

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    Maybe that happens, but Apple should consider this:

    I bought my ipodT BECAUSE I could jailbreak it and many other too, I think.
  3. nbx909

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    yeah my main draw to the Itouch is the jailbreak.
  4. Jeezo

    Jeezo New Member

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    Some say that firmware will always be able to be jailbroken, it will just take some time - think of the PSP and far they have come

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    you could always just downgrade the firmware.
  6. adamscybot

    adamscybot New Member

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    This is what Im saying. Im sure apple could put an end to that (The PSP firmware comparison is a perfect example).
  7. Scythal

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    They can't stop from entering restore mode, technically it would be really surprising and wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. If you download the 1.1.1 firmware plus a few other files - the links are easy to find - you will be able to jailbreak whichever firmware they put on the iPod at the time of buying.

    In fact, your ability to get a jailbroken iPod currently depends on:
    • the 1.1.1 firmware, currently the only one that can be jailbroken,
    • optionally the 1.1.2 firmware if you want to upgrade (it fixes several problems),
    • the jailbreakme.com website contents, especially the one tiff file that does the exploit,
    • the OkToPrep application (http://conceitedsoftware.com/iphone/zips/OktoPrep.zip) and more importantly, its installation script,
    • the script to jailbreak 1.1.2 (http://conceitedsoftware.com/iphone/site/112jb.html),
    • a tested version of iTunes like 7.5.0.20 (in case a future version might be able to detect jailbroken devices).

    So no, they can't stop you from jailbreaking.

    Apple also announced an SDK to officially develop 3rd-party native applications, so hopefully jailbreaking won't even be necessary in a few months.
  8. adamscybot

    adamscybot New Member

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    Thankyou

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    . The technical information is what I was interested in.

    I did hear that the 3rd party apps will only be from LICENSED companies (licensed from apple). So maybe we will still need the jailbreak tricks

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  9. Scythal

    Scythal New Member

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    Yes, the SDK is for the iPhone, but since the iPod is based on the same platform it will beneficiate from it too. And in general, applications that run on a phone need to be certified to access certain resources.

    So while the SDK should probably be available to everyone, the ability to install applications, and what they will be able to do, is entirely up to Apple's degree of paranoia

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