i'm talking about the ZuneHD (from what i've seen), and the marketplace... The actual Zune is fine, but I like the iPt's interface a lot better.. my problem lies in the free pass deal.. you pay $15 a month for unlimited downloads, but you can only keep 10... This would work if you like to keep up with the freshest/newest music.. My main method for finding "new" music is pandora. and with the stations I create on there, less than 5% of the songs were made this year. I can determine if I want to keep a song about half way through, and I never download a song and "hope that it grows on me"... If I like a song on pandora, I just simply go to iTunes and download... and if I find 50 songs I like, I don't have to pick out 40 to trash at the end of the month... that's why I'm an iPod fan... it just irritates me when someone uses the term fanboy or apple-whore.. I'll never own a macbook unless its given to me, because I can't justify spending $1500 dollars when I can spend 600 or 700 and do the same thing.. anyway, i'm going off into a rant now... umm, so yeah, that's why I like iTunes over Zune marketplace.. no "zune is a knock-off piece of spit" or "apple = God" stuff here... Oh, I forgot about the direct download that the iPod has... I don't know if Zune has this or not... and I don't know enough about the Zii Egg to give my opinion on it..