This is a response of this thread. I think it's a good one. OMG!!!! Icy is so cool looooking!!!!11eelvEN! Have you ever heard the saying form over function? With Icy, you cannot purchase packages from the somewhat exclusive Cydia Store. In addition, if you tap on a category, it still shows installed packages. There's already an Installed tab for that. Nor does Icy have a set of recommended/featured packages, more sources, an extensive series of tutorials, FAQs, SSH guide, developer tutorials, and more on it's main page. Updates aren't easily shown, but more on that in a later section. OMG!!!! Icy haz teh info pages now! It supports repository ownerz! While RiP Dev fixed this with a handy blue arrow on the package view in the 1.1 update, Icy does not load pages nearly as much as Cydia does. This is anti-community. There are a few tiny, tiny advertisements on each page, and helping the community is a small price to pay. Repository guy BigDaveyJ who works with BigBoss on Touch Revolution packages (hosting such packages like SliderKon, Tinee, TheZip, OutSource, etc.) has seen his advertisement revenue drop by half since Icy was released. This has not improved since the 1.1 Icy update. Repository owners and uploaders are losing money. Do you want them to be able to keep hosting their repositories for us? Do you want to have to download everything by SSH, because we've shut them down? Icy doesn't support developers or repository owners. In addition, the button will always be there, regardless of whether or not there is an actual depiction for the package. Various RiPDev packages have no depiction associated with them. The blue button is still there. You can wait for hours and nothing is going to show up. Icy won't tell you. Cydia takes too long to refresh sources111! Icy, Installer, and Cydia all refresh in the background. You can do whatever you want within the application while resources are refreshing. Our deluded associate seems to believe that there is a wait with Cydia. There isn't. It loads in the background. Cydia also doesn't automatically refresh on launch. If you have refreshed within the past 10 minutes, Cydia will not automatically refresh again. Saurik has publicly stated that he is changing this to a longer time. Also, Icy refreshes much slower than Cydia. From launch to ready to use, Cydia took 1 minute on the dot. Icy, on the other hand, took 1.5 minutes, with the same sources, the same iPod, the same damn thing. Tell me how that's better. It's not. Updates are not shown. Cydia shows that I have two updates: SBSettings and Tinee. This is not the case with Icy. It shows nothing needs updating. OMG!!!! Well... so... Cydia IS SLOW AND WEBbASED1`1 You say that a downfall of Cydia is that it's web-based. How is that a downfall? With a series of WebViews, it can be updated far more easily than Icy can. With this, saurik is able to post news bulletins about updating, packages, and more. He's an accessible guy. Saurik has already said several times that he prefers to work on function and features before working on user interface. What's a pretty face without anything to back it up? Let's not forget that saurik is the guy that brought us Winterboard, Cycorder, MobileSubstrate, MobileFinder (the port), Telesphoreo, and other open source projects like Veency. What has RiP Dev brought us? The monopolistic Kate that blocks Winterboard and other applications? The outdated AppTapp based Installer? InstallerApp, the $7 application that repository owners have already all but blocked?