I havent checked much new on Apple, but now, I just found out: The new Nano has a camera? But the new iTouch doesnt? are you kidding me? I remember hearing somone say that the apple dude said "We dont want to make a device thats exactly the iphone without the phone" why the hell not? I mean SERIOUSLY, some people do NOT wanna buy a phone, but they wanna expect the same features. I dont know, sorry if I'm a little late on this.