I've been watching this forum almost non-stop since Friday regarding the 1.1.3 jailbreak. NateTrue's, the Dev Team, the "no computer needed" method that resulted in a 70 page thread... I've had a jailbroken 1.1.1 Touch since October. And I did it because I wanted the iPhone apps. Well, after seeing all these problems, and thinking about it for a long time, and even going to the Apple store yesterday to see an off the shelf 1.1.3, I decided to just upgrade iTunes (I had been on 188.8.131.52 with the wifi off every time I connected my iPod), did a forced restore to get a clean 1.1.2 Touch, and then upgraded to 1.1.3 through iTunes. Then I paid the $20 for the apps. They're really what I use the most on my iPod. Everything worked with no problems whatsoever. I really appreciate all the help people have given for jailbreaking -- video tutorials, sticky guides. And I really enjoyed the the fruits of all that. I just wanted to say that I've made a choice and I like my wiggly icons and maps app with locate (which works for me!). Good luck with the 1.1.3 jailbreak. If it ends up working well someday, I might do it again. Just wanted to say thanks and see if anyone else has felt the same way.