okay i was reading the sticky thread up there and saw where a guy said whether its a lite jailbreak or a full it will reveal the exploit to apple. this is what ive seen many people say when chronic dev team suggested a lite jailbreak. then King Chronic said this while quoting that post i meantioned earlier: this will probably change some peoples minds for the ones who think releasing a lite jailbreak will be "bad", "ruining the full release" and so on and so forth..... PS. as he said in his post it would take a while explaining so dont bug him or any of the others who dont agree with this. they know what theyre doing. not you.