here goes: I installed the icococlasm 1.3 deb on my iphone 3gs (pwnage tooled) and forgot that I had sbrotator still installed and when i resprang it immediately sent me to the apple logo endlessly cycling forever. I tried everything I could find to fix and thought I might just wait a day or so. So today I fianlly decide that I'm gonna try to use iphone pc suite feature to get you out of reboot mode by like basically disabling all jailbreak stuff and mobile substrates... but when I went to plug my iphone into my computer my computer wouldnt recognize my iphone, not even in itunes. I tried using the same usb cord in the same usb slot with an ipod touch 1st gen and it shows up fine. I tried using 2 other computers and on neither did my iphone show up. This is a very severe issue as my iphone is my only phone and way of contacting anyone and now I cannot even restore because my iphone doesnt show up on my computer. I currently have ssh connectivity but I dont know how long itll last as Ive had it on and off throughout the 5 hours I spent trying to fix this. I tried dfu mode in every method but that still didnt make it show up in itunes... I tried letting it run out of battery. Another thing I might note is that sbrotator and iconoclasm did not show up in my mobile substrates so I tried reinstalling them and then deleting the files and still had no luck. Last night my iphone also got really hot and I really hope the overheating didnt permanently damage the device. Any advice or suggestions at all would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.