Well after today, anybody that has actually got it to jailbreak knows that it was done with the iphone firmware... kind of forced on the touch with ibrickr. So, with that said, its fair to say that we are all just pretty much experimenting with this. For the most part its cool, but really theres no need to waste memory, the space the phone and sms could be used for better things imo. Im still waiting for an actual touch jailbreak, so I can get installer with all the 1.1.3 features. More so I would like to see what the actual SDK brings. Still a fun day for iptf.