Well, of course this is just my opinion, it turns out that im pretty sure this "new" ipod touch is really just an updated 2nd gen. U know with all those problems that they had supposedly wit putting the cameras in, they probably just made it into the regualr 2nd gen case and updated the processor and stuff a little. And we know they had to change something and make them just faster because obviously they werent ready. Thats why my apple store has the 5th gen nano but not the "new" touch! They obviously hadnt planned this and thats why its taking so long to come out. Now why do i say that its technically not a new generation? Well heres the link: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB770G/A Ok so u see how it has for compability the 5th Gen already? And of course some other compatible ipods or iphones. So how come it says 2nd Gen only, if we know the "new" touches are shipping with these headphones. How come it doesnt say compatible with 3rd Gen.? Like i said this is just my opinion! Feel free to comment! Please Register or Log in to view images EDIT: Check this out: http://support.apple.com/specs/#ipodnano You see how apple is calling the new nano with camera the 5th Gen? So how come Apple isnt calling this "new" touch a 3rd Gen? I think im gonna wait for the real 3rd Gen!