Revisiting the rules

Discussion in 'Site feedback, suggestions, and discussions' started by Fishy, Dec 16, 2009.

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  1. Fishy

    Fishy Member

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    Disclaimer:
    I am not a mod at iPod touch Fans, nor am I trying to act like one or enforce any of the following rules or punishments. My motive for writing this was the recent extreme flow of rules being broken, I do not want my favorite site falling to shambles so I decided to do something to help. If bgizzle sees this as a violation he is free to remove it without warning.)

    Reason for this thread:

    There seems to be a lot of confusion over the rules over the past few months; I'm not sure if it's because people aren't reading them, are just ignoring them, or if they don't understand them. I'll be addressing the latter.

    You can read the Official Rules HERE.


    We, as members of iPod touch Fans, have certain duties. We must report any post that does not follow the rules and avoid breaking them ourselves. Reading the rules, however, is our first priority; you know what they say, ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law. Take the time to read the rules and educate yourself well so you can enjoy the full benefits of this great site and avoid being banned.



    Although Jailbreaking can be discussed (and is even encouraged discussion here) some activities that are made possible by Jailbreaking (namely pirating) are NOT to be discussed.

    Discussion of:

    • Any application that is used for making cracked apps playable
    • Cracked apps themselves
    • Stolen or modified IPSWs
    • ROMS
    • BIOS
    • Websites that host cracked apps or encourage piracy
    will surely get you punished.

    Also not allowed here are discussions of illegal activities or possessions such as:

    • Illegal drugs
    • Fraud, including but not limited to breaking your iPod for a replacement.


    Do not tell others to break the rules, they will receive punishment, but if it is found out that you told them to, you will receive a punishment as well. In order to keep the forums a better place, moderators will punish users who are displaying signs of antisocial behavior at their own discretion.



    These rules are enforced strongly, but the punishment is at the full discretion of the moderator. The report a post feature is not to be abused, it is for reporting posts that break the rules of the forum, nothing else!

    Also, the discussion of iPod touch vs. iTouch is irrelevant and does not need to be discussed here. Arguing about it will get you nowhere... Leave it alone.


    DO NOT SHARE PERSONAL INFORMATION.

    This site is accessible by children of 13 years and older, posting pornography here is not only immoral, it is illegal. Posting extremely obscene stories or using excessively strong profanity will not be tolerated either.

    Reviews are greatly appreciated here at iPod touch Fans, because they give us an appreciation for the game so we can learn about it before we buy it. One of the most important factors in the review is the value for the price, if you post that a game is free, but neglect to mention that you only got it free because you were reviewing it, people may think "okay I'll try it." However imagine them rushing to the App Store and being disappointed by a large price-tag. Not a good situation, and it's not appreciated here.


    Quite an easy rule, ask permission from bgizzle before posting a link to any website not posted in the above "approved" list.

    Never, EVER, under any circumstances post links to:
    Referral sites
    iPod Touch/iPhone related blogs, forums, or websites (unless otherwise approved by bgizzle)
    Personal blogs or websites that are irrelevant to the topic at hand.


    You can post off-topic posts in the OT, but you cannot post about religion or politics. Making any thread purposely go off-track is not allowed, even in the OT. Asking for donations or begging for money is not allowed here.

    Although the list of things you can be infracted for may seem long, you can break it down quite easily:

    • Don't double post or bump excessively old/now outdated threads.
    • Do not post links to other websites unless you have prior permission.
    • Be kind to others.
    • Watch your language. Also, be mindful of the pictures you post.
    • You may have only one account.
    • Do not attempt to get around any ban you may receive.
    • Post helpfully, saying "I don't know" to someone's whole thread is not helping said person with whatever problem they are having.
    • Do not mislead the members, making them have to restore IS NOT FUNNY.
    • Be mindful of the moderators, first off, they deserve it, second, biting the hand that feeds is never intelligent.
    • Do not mini-moderate, this includes telling people to remove their offending posts. We have moderators for a reason, and they all work hard and do their best to keep this great forum running.

    An additional note by
    Meikura:
    Thank you for taking the time to read this, I hope I helped and answered any questions you had. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask them.
  2. ChrisL

    ChrisL Well-Known Member

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    Nice write up, but I don't believe that people have trouble understanding the rules, like you said, they just don't read them at all.

    PS. You spelled discretion* wrong

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    Fixed the spelling and grammatical errors. Thanks.
  4. Meikura

    Meikura Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Nice write up, that must have taken a while! I'm going to sticky this in the Site chat subforum, as it's a good explanation of how to interpret the rules.

    I'd just like to throw this out there too:
    If you receive a warning or a ban, and you PM the moderator from whom you received it with derogatory remarks, insulting language, or anything along those lines and it will not end well for you.
  5. Abcmsaj

    Abcmsaj Retired Moderator

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    just gone through it and added a few bullet points and bold

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    nice write up
  6. Fishy

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    Whoa, thanks. I hope it helps people.

    Thank you, I typed it on my iPod in notes at 1 in the morning so I couldn't spell everything right or put bullet points >.<
  7. TDG

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    Nice job Fishy.
  8. Fishy

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    Thank you TDG.

    I hope this thing has helped, it's read count is so low that it looks like it's not getting much use... *blows dust off* ^-^
  9. studangerous

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    Useful write up, however I believe the crux of the problem we have is that the forum rules are over-convoluted and long. While people with general forum experience can readily appreciate most of them, certain iPtF specific rules get lost in the overwhelmingly long text. Lets face it, a lot of noob members (particularly those who are new to the VB forum structure) aren't going to read them, just as they don't real EULAs on software. That's where the infraction system comes in - it's a fair system for reminding and enforcing rules. The community itself is also fairly self regulating, which helps.

    I think the format of the rules could be better changed up to provide a basic overview of the rules with links to relevant sections and to the text as a whole. This would cover all member needs, from special to advanced.

    I'll give the boingboing posting rules as an example:

    i.e. a sentence per rule with each sentence linked up to the deeper breakdown plus a link to the full version of the rules.

    Just my 2 cents.
  10. Fishy

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    I understand where you're coming from. I will try to make one of these tomorrow.
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