With ziphone, it just says "error: package download failed" after a few seconds I think because it's the previous installer version. With the other one it won't even start up to refresh sources. And with iliberty+ installer it just doesn't download and I have to restart it every single time to try again (home/power hold). I restarted my ipod over a hundred times and restore>jailbreak it like 15 times at least. Could it be my router? I had an iphone before and it had the same installer problems except it still worked roughly after like a day so I had a couple apps. Maybe the ipod touch wifi is even weaker than the iphone one. idk. My internet connection is really fast but my router is weak.