A lot of people are saying that this is just fanboys vs fanboys and that the beta versions of Limera1n were crappy and now that it's stable there is a bit of confusion between which one is currently more stable. As of the second I post this, GP still experiences a problem with jailbreaking the device. GP doesn't fully interact with the Ramdisk of a few iPods and doesn't fully jailbreak them, causing it needing to be re-run, and sometimes leaving the iPod in need of a full restore. Limera1n has had all kinks worked out, and offers a jailbreak for the same line of devices as GP does. When GP gets the Ramdisk problem worked out, they will be equal in terms of effectiveness, and when GP supports 2g iPT and aTV 2 it will be considered to be a better product, unless Geo somehow adds support for both. Hopefully this will help someone pick between the two. -CJ EDIT: For iPhone users who need hacktivtion, Limera1n is also the only one of the two that does this, GP will most likely be edited to include this. Thanks ThePodofi and b-mac 39.