Well I think that this story shows strong evidence that there will be an Ipod Touch 3g. http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/10/iphone-3g-s-supports-opengl-es-2-0-but-3g-only-supports-1-1/ Basically the story is about OpenGL 2.0 being supported on the iphone 3gs. This lets it have much more advanced apps and games. If there wasn't an ipod touch refresh in September, then new apps may not work on the old 2g's. So a new model is most likely going to happen. What do you guys think?