Ok, so I've seen ALOT of threads and posts about ********* release a stolen untethered exploit forcing the dev team to release the free one. This obviously puts question in the air like: "now its going to be alot harder for us to exploit the next gen's" granted this MAYBE true but you got to figure, IF apple is planning to do a release for a certain time frame* I.E sep. 09 they already started production if not months ago. It would cost them an assload amount of money to stop production, redo firmware, put tighter seals on the chips and so on. From here on out its a waiting game to see if the untethered was released in the proper time frame so that apple could not change/modify anything or anything to much. *If they are doing a sameday world wide release they must have started production sooner.