I recently jailbroke my iTouch 3G 8g model with the latest version of Black rain. It worked nicely--and it was fast! I have installed several [banana]s from the newsgroups and they all installed and worked fine. I have installed Cydia and aptbackup but I am really confused about what is actually backed up and what is not. I did not get any apps from Cydia so I am wondering should I power down my iTouch and have to rerun black rain, will the [banana]s get re-installed? Aptbackup seems to be described to back up only apps from Cydia, is that true? All I did to install the[banana]s I got from the newsgroups was to double click on the [banana] which launched iTunes where installation was performed completely by iTunes. What is the difference in getting the apps from Cydia, many of their apps cost as much as iTunes???? What's the point in a jailbroken device if you have to pay to get the apps from Cydia?? Much thanks for answers to the questions above! Great group and lots of good information.