I know how hard it is to find both of these apps since they have been retired! So that is why if you need them just email me at email@example.com. I send out about twice aday. Also uxm and usirius are still working great. They both are amazingly well with the edge network (no skips!) and work with orb in safari and orb live! Use orb in safari if your reading emails or any phone thing, but if your just using sat radio orb lives interface is great!