I could really be an IPOD Touch fan if it had a camera. But, no, uncle Steve says we need to concentrate on the game customers for the Touch. Apple's weird idiosyncras'ys and need for control really turn me off. Honestly, I would buy and IPOD touch right now - if it had a camera (and one for all of my kids). Until it has a camera it is not a complete box. I'll give them a couple of months or so - then will probably go ANDROID to get what I need. To bad... Yeah, I know, what about the Iphone? Well, AT&T has really spotty coverage in my area - a common complaint and turn off for the iphone.