Thanks for reply, can't find the post I was reading yesterday with regard to your post advising Absinthe over Redsnow. It wasn't important just wanted to try and understand the reason why one method is preferred to another. Your explaination was great, however I always jailbreak from a clean ios update with nothing on my device other than the stock apps. All of my music, photo's etc are backed up on my pc. As I have no data for Absinthe to move on either of my pre A5 devices is this still a safe option or can I still run into problems ? Would your advice still be to jailbreak with Redsnow ?