Heres my ipod, and what i can remember about what ive installed: Firmware 2.2, installed kate but uninstalled, winterboard, random themes and photos(shouldnt matter), dock, dock prefs, nes, psx4iphone, gameboy thing not nes. Thats all atm. Heres the problem, it has been posted before, but he didnt say everything i am, and im hoping this will be seen more. Every time i respring, reboot, and turn of then back on my ipod, my apps move around into random places, ive been told to restore and if that is what to do, i am wondering something. Will backing up the stuff just be pointless, since some part of something i downloaded is the problem. Thanks for any replies!