Ok, now I've searched throughout the forum for this but I haven't found a clear-cut answer, so if there is any threads on this I would appreciate some direction to them. Basically I'm wondering, if I got an iPhone WITHOUT a sim card, can I activate it? I would like to use the iphone for its camera, ipod, etc. but I don't want a service, therefore I wouldn't buy a sim card or a contract. I know that you can use programs such as winpwn to activate it, but afterwards would I still need a sim card? Would i get the "no sim card installed" message? anybody out there that's done this? any help is appreciated, thanks!