So I just signed up with the community. I can't wait till someone has a e-mail app running smoothly on the touch. I had the 8gb for about 2 weeks when i returned it. I found that the 8gb is not enugh, and fear that the 16 may not be enough either. I had a 60 gb photo which recently had a sad ipod face on there. If I can get the e-mail app on the touch, I would get the 16 and be done. The maps app would be very nice as well. So I will patiently wait a while to see what happens. I am hoping I can see if there is a black friday deal somewhere, however, i doubt it will be anything big for ANY iPod.