I purchased my first Ipod (actually first Apple anything) ever 2 days ago. 2g 8gb Touch factory refurb for 162 dollars with shipping. Not to shabby. Looking forward to getting to know this device a lot more and what it can do. I also have a Archos 5 coming that I am going to put them side by side and see which I like better and then either sell the other or my wife will fall in love with it (she has the 8gb Zen right now) and she will keep it. So I guess this is my official Apple coming out announcement.