ok so i have a zune as of now but i am getting a 16g ipod touch for xmas. ive been doing a lot of research and i have some questions with jailbreaking. first of all, i understand that 2nd gen itouches as of now, can not be jailbroken. do you think they will be by xmas this year? if not, will apple only be selling the 2nd gen ipod touches or would i be able to still get a 1st gen one so i can jail break it? or could i buy a 2nd gen ipod touch and then downgrade the software? or how does that work? now i have some questions about VNC. so i see there is an app in the app store called like Mocha VNC or something like that. is that the same thing as the VNC you would put on your jailbroken ipod touch? which one is better? or is there any differences? also, when hooking up VNC on your ipod touch (i dont know about the mocha VNC in the app store) i understand that you download the program on your computer and go through that process and then enter that computer's ip address in the settings for VNC when you add a computer, but if i wanted to add another computer, would i need to download the VNC program on THAT computer too or would i just need that computer's ip address for adding another computer on my ipod touch? and i have a couple questions about voip. is it worth getting? how can you speak with no microphone? anything i need to know about this program? and could anyone tell me about some cool, useful or fun apps for a jailbroken ipod touch BESIDES mxtube, customize, summerboard, tap tap revolution, Islsk, the iphone apps, and the NES emulator? thank you.