Oi -- figured I'd send some word of advice to all those who are having problems with their first jailbreak -- I've messed around over the last week and a half with all three second generation jailbreaks (tethered, semi-tethered and now untethered) -- perhaps some of what I've learnt can help: 1. Semi-tethered -- buggy as hell -- avoid. 2. Libusb -- in my case in Vista, even when installed in compatibility mode, crashes my computer on shutdown. can't be avoided (perhaps with the unbinding commands but it I can't find that file in my install) -- I simply uninstall and reinstall as needed -- I'm planning and setting up a win 95 machine in vmware to deal with this. besides once you have your ipod 2g jailbroken (untethered) you hopefully won't need Libusb for a while. 3. tethered jailbreak: easy, no problems, but Ipods do need occasional resets, pain in the ass when on the road (sometimes restarting springboard ain't enough). Quickfreedom advice (in Vista) (I didn't have to rest it to factory settings before doing this -- after all we are flashing a new firmware onto the device!) so you've got LibUSB, and a good copy of the firmware -- (regardless of whether LibUSB causes your vista to crash on shutdown) but your creating custom firmware stalls as soon as it starts at 1%.. weird. I tried it with custom image.. without custom image. kept stalling. so I kept trying. and trying. (pushing the button, waiting 20-30 seconds, cancelling, going back to main menu, trying again. for some reason after many attempts It actually works (I think about 1 out of every 15-20). I had my computer panel open in the background and all extra apps closed. I replicated this experiment 3 times (twice without custom image and finally with custom image) -- made the firmware, flashed my ipod -- works like a charm (nothing like a Canadian Maple leaf boot logo Please Register or Log in to view images Remember to hold shift when you restore in Itunes, and follow the instructions. easy as pie. (much easier than the other jailbreaks for the 2g).. if at first your firmware doesn't succeed.... try, try, try again!