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FIX the long backups, not disable them. Solution is here!

Discussion in 'iPod touch Firmware 2.X' started by kb925, Aug 25, 2008.

  1. kb925

    kb925 New Member

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    ***ETA: This guide is for PRE 2.1 firmware. The new firmware apparently addresses the long backup problem and my backups are now just seconds long. I do not know if upgrading will automatically fix preexisting problems with hour long backups. I will need additional feedback on that.


    I apologize if I come off as an authority, it's not intentional, but I have been fed up with my long backups and after searching and trying everything I could think of, I am THRILLED to have found the solution. So I want to tell everyone! :)

    NOTE: This process was performed on an iPod Touch 2.0.2 (never JB'd) with iTunes 7.7.1.11 on a PC running Windows XP. The process is the same (or similar) for the iPhone.

    My backups used to take 4 hours. Now they take just minutes, even with 40+ apps installed including large apps like Texas Hold 'em, Brain Challenge, and Vay. No, I am not exaggerating. A fresh sync generally takes no more than 5 minutes from the time I plug my iPod in to the time I disconnect.

    I do not guarantee this process will work for you. I can't do that. But it has worked for a lot of other people. This fix is an adaptation from geauxracerx's solution posted here in the Apple Discussion Forums. Read what others have said. I do not take credit for the solution, but I added in a few steps and gave a little more detailed info to fill in the blanks, fix problems and answer the questions I ran into when following geauxracerx's instructions.

    Extraordinary long backups are caused by an error when an app (or apps) was installed or updated, particularly if you have ever installed or updated using the App Store on the device itself rather than iTunes. Even if you were never aware that there was a problem, they can arise and will cause problems with the backup process. Maybe you did have a problem during an update or install. Maybe the update stalled, or the App Store crashed. These issues are very likely what have been causing your long backups and you didn't even know it. During the backup process these errors cause it to drag and pause for a very long time before it gets moving again. From your view, you just see a normal backup that is taking hours, and undoubtedly annoying you to no end. On the inside, iTunes is trying desperately to get past a roadblock that it doesn't know where it came from.

    This is how to fix the problem. This is not a quick fix, but it is an effective fix. And it is a FIX, not a band aid. Depending on how many apps you have installed, this can take several hours to complete. You will also lose all game scores and any other data stored in your apps. You will be starting fresh. It is an inconvenience, but in the end, you will be rewarded with quick, efficient backups, the way Apple intended. And you will never have to dread the
    iTunes backup again.

    The Process:

    1. Open iTunes, go to Edit>Preferences>Syncing and remove all previous backups. Also click "Disable automatic syncing for all iPhones and iPods"

    2. In your system file structure, locate the backup files for iTunes. (I believe all of these are hidden files so you'll have to set it to view hidden system files.)
    On Windows XP: C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup
    On Windows Vista: C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\AppleComputer
    On a Mac: Users/YOURACCOUNT/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup
    Delete ALL files and folders inside the Backup folder.

    3. Plug in iPod. On the Applications tab, uncheck sync apps. iTunes will ask if you want to remove the apps from the iPod, say yes. Click sync. This will remove all apps on your iPod, it will also backup the ipod. This backup will be very fast, and will recreate the backup folders you deleted in step 2.

    4. After the sync is complete, if there are any apps left on your ipod, touch and hold the icon until it starts to wiggle, then touch the X to delete the app. Delete all apps left on your ipod. Then sync again.

    5. After the sync is complete, disconnect the iPod and do a hard restart by holding down the sleep/power button until the slider appears, slide to power off. Wait 5 seconds and push the power button again and wait for the ipod to boot up.

    6. Connect your iPod again. Now begin adding apps back to your ipod one by one. On the Applications tab, click "Sync applications" AND "Selected applications". Make sure all apps are unchecked.

    7. Check one app and sync. After the sync is complete, right click on your ipod under Devices in the left column of iTunes. Click "Back Up" and allow the backup to complete.

    8. Repeat step 7 for each app you want to install. Keep the previous installed apps checked, just check one more app each time. Be sure to backup after each install. As you add more and more apps, the backup will take longer and longer as the process scans apps for changes. An initial backup can also be long for a particularly large application. However, ONLY the initial backup after you install an app will take a long time. Subsequent backups are very quick. Even these "long" backups are just minutes long, sometimes up to 15 minutes in my experience.

    9. When you are finished installing and backing up all apps, go to Edit>Preferences>Syncing and enable automatic syncing for all iPhones and iPods.

    10. Unplug and plug your device back in just for kicks. Let it back up and sync. Better? ;)

    Notes:

    The very first time an application is backed up, all critical data is written to your hard drive. This is why the backups are so long the first time. Afterward, only data changes are written, so backups are much shorter.

    Backup times will continue to vary based on how many apps were altered since the last sync. If you've used one app since the last backup, your backup will be very short. If you've used 20 apps, the backup will be longer. But you will be rid of the dreaded hour (or more) long backup, that is a promise.

    Now that your apps are installed and backing up correctly, the number one rule is to never, ever install or update apps through the App Store on the iPod. ONLY install and update through iTunes, and backup after every install or update. The App Store on the iPod is still unstable and can cause lock ups, crashes and freezes. And it is the culprit in these long backup times. Avoid it until the bugs are ironed out.

    Also, do not be tempted to disable backups using programs or code edits available online. Your backups are crucial in the event of a restore. Backups contain all of your personal data like game scores, notes, icon arrangement, application data, etc. And it's not a matter of if you'll have to restore one day, it's when, and you'll be glad you have a backup when you do.

    ***NOTE: If you want to spread this solution around, by all means it's fine with me, copy/paste to your hearts content. But a link of credit would be cool, just as I credited geauxracerx with the original solution. Just link back to this post. Thanks. :)
  2. brisingr

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    press "x" (cancel) when backing up. there you go.
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    Abcmsaj Retired Moderator

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    if this makes them faster then I might try.
    seems a b*tch to remove all my apps coz of the order they're in.. But oh well.
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    ipodtouchmaster05 Well-Known Member

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    no this guide is great, it works. what you said is stupid because that prevents backups then, I myself prefer to have my iphone backed up.
  5. kb925

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    Pressing the X does cancel your backup, which I was doing too before this fix. But canceling the backup may corrupt your current backup files and when you have to restore you'll have nothing to backup from.

    This is not a band aid, not a temporary solution, it corrects the root problem.
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    It is a PITA. It took me several hours to finish the process, but I'm literally giddy when I sync now. It was sooooo worth it. 5 minute syncs with full backups... 41 apps!!

    I hope you try it. Do it when you have a few hours to kill, but you don't have to reinstall ALL your apps at one time. You can install your favorites, then do a few here an there when you have time.
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    Abcmsaj Retired Moderator

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    It will take AGES though... I've just noticed step 7 - 9 or w/e it is :\
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    no this guide is great, it works. what you said is stupid because that makes you backup your apps one by one, I myself prefer to have more than 50 apps.

    Everything in this world is a matter of opinion.
    peace.
  8. Abcmsaj

    Abcmsaj Retired Moderator

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    me too.
    but if i start now, i might finish by 4 :D


    EDIT: If this doesn't work, you owe me many, many hours of my life back :p
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    Really nice guide, my iPod actually backups fairly quickly (or it might appear that way since I kinda just plug it in and forget about it for a while lol, but it definitely doesn't take 4 hours) I'll try using this guide if I ever feel like my backups are taking an unecessary amount of time.
  10. Abcmsaj

    Abcmsaj Retired Moderator

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    I've almost done 1 springboard page. While downloading Kalyway 10.5.2, watching TV and listening to a podcast :p
    Only 6 page and 4 apps to go.

    I might try 2 at a time... Or after my major apps are on, I'll just sync them 1 page at a time.

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