This may only be interesting to me. I bought a 3rd gen touch 8gb that is the MC model. never registered it with itunes. I always synced it off line. decided to try to downgraded it to the 2ng gen 3.1.2 like most of the posts on here said. Worked like a charmed. now i'm going to make it rain on it to see what happens. I think the key may be not to register it. oh and by the way my restore path is pointed toward sauriks server for my iphone.