I have seen alot of people are saying that its to hard or expensive to make a dongle yourself, This is wrong. Today I got one made up for me for $30 which is cheaper then the alternitives and only took 5 hours to get aswell. What I did was print out out the PIC dongle instructions. http://www.ifans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150941 Then I took these down to my local electronics repair store. I left my Ipod with him because he wanted something to test it against because he was a bit unsure of the instructions. 5 hours latter I got a phone call telling me to come in and pic it up. Went in payed $30 and left with my new dongle and my ipod. Its in a old usb memory sticks case so it doesnt look bad eather. But he told me if I wanted anymore I would take over night because he would have to order in the ipod plug because he only had one on hand. And that he would only charge $20 because it was a rativaly easy job and wouldnt have to spend the same amount of time again. So anyone wanting a dongle can easly get one by doing the same thing. Some smaller shops might not have PIC programers so try the biggest shop first.