Well after years of not being an apple buyer i made the plunge. Spent $300 on a 3rd gen 32gb touch. I'm happy with the device in some ways but the things that will keep me from ever buying another touch or similar are 1. the battery sucks 2. limit the number of pages of apps? common.. my touch is only 2 months old and with a full charge my battery drops to near half playing a 3d game for less then an hour..Pathetic. Very limiting for a + $300 purchase but i'm told thats the apple way. Oh well I tried but never again. ------------------double post merged------------------Oh and one other thing. Before getting jumped about the number of apps anyone really actually needs...Ok, i guess i'm an app junkie..who cares. For $300+ for my device should that not be an option available to me if i want it? Restricting page numbers (springboards) unless its to secure the devices performance or capacity to function i don't think is right. JB'ing it? not interested but now seeing why so many do it.