Apple will be welding their Macs shut soon.

Discussion in 'Apple Discussions, Rumours and Speculation' started by DaniPh, Mar 30, 2012.

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Do you think Apple will become a money-hungry monster and 'ruin the Mac as we know it'?

Yes, completely agree. 4 vote(s) 16.7%
Yes, but they will still give us an option to run programs NOT from the Mac App Store. 5 vote(s) 20.8%
Yes, but Apple may later revoke the features of running homebrew software on the Mac. 0 vote(s) 0.0%
No, that'd be ridiculous, and it would wreak chaos for projects like Macports, Fink, etc. 15 vote(s) 62.5%
  1. DaniPh Member

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    Hello fellow Mac users!

    (This was taken from a long deleted thread I put on Apple Discussions (formerly now Apple Support forums) as a rant about the App Store for Mac and iOS / Mac OS X Lockdown / bonding)

    Apple released the Mac App store on January the 6th, and this is very complimentary to many new users looking for apps, but there may be a lot of negatives which WILL ensue in the future with Apple trying to bond iOS and Mac OS.

    Apple is going to run-down their company and ruin the Mac as we know it. When Mac OS X 10.9 comes out, who knows what Apple will be doing by then. Changing the works, setting restrictions from their headquarters in Cupertino, to try to control what you can and can't do, which will cause famous non-Apple apps on your Mac to stop working, such as:

    • CleanMyMac.
    • iStat Server.
    • Skype for Mac.
    • Microsoft Office + Office Suite 2011 (Well it will stay, but many features requiring system-level access may be revoked, it will be smacked-around by Apple, so to speak).

    All these apps will simply not run, because they are not 'Apple Approved' applications. Along with Mac OS X 10.8 +/10.9 / possible OS XI (11) coming out, they might be even more restricted. Here's where the crap comes, it sounds crazy, but listen. Apple will may start encrypting all updates and use SSL for every transfer (they probably already do) due to 'security' of course, they may or may not starting locking the OS from external connection, e.g. A Windows PC can't connect to a Mac via Network Shares, etc...

    Predictions that may or may not happen -- Rumors + Fact by experience vs. predicted moves that Apple would viably take:

    • • • Apple will seal off their Macs. I mean sure Modifying your computer is great, but really, why would you want to go to an Apple store anytime there is something wrong with your Mac, or you need to install new RAM and stuff? Only Apple-Approved RAM. Have you also heard about Apple screwing in and making batteries non-user replaceable? Well, that's happened to the MacBook Air, the the original MacBook, hell, why not the MBP?

    • • • Terminal is a no-no! Yes, everyone LOVES the Terminal and Unix commands, I mean who does not? Every Unix/Linux nerd loves geeking with Unix! But Uh-Oh. Here comes Apple the king of their software. They've decided terminal is a no-no and Nobody wants them re-modding their Macs back to freedom of 3rd Party apps and free source. What happend to freedom anymore? And as far as I'm concerned, 10.8 Mountain Lion / 10.9+ may have a restricted single-user mode or possibly no single-user mode at all, judging by Apple's past paths they have tooken to secure the Mac Operating System.

    • • • Restrictions, Restrictions, Restrictions, baby! Just like on the iPhone, iPod and all other iDevices, their devices will be fully-restricted and no external access to them will be allowed, heaven forbid we steal Apple's source! Only Apps that are allowed here on Apple's OSX, are iTunes/App store Approved and installed ones, but the truth actually could be that 3rd party Apps are still allowed, but although, the bad side is that People will most likely upload these iTunes stolen apps up on μTorrent or something, then everybody who has a Mac could get a free, say; $50 App for free, say, (Just an example!) PhotoPro for Mac v.2.12, and you don't have to pay, you just download and 'click and drag' to your Applications folder. No (App store) Apps will run on your Mac unless they are hooked with the same UUID, and aren't blacklisted by Apple (yes, they can! see http://www.intomobile.com/2008/08/07/apple-can-blacklist-and-remotely-disable-applications-on-your-iphone/) and having to use a restricted computer that can only do things the company wants it to do would be seriously terrible, Apple. (Microsoft already has Windows marketplace for Windows 8 Metro apps, so no biggy, right?). I'm not trying to be stereotypical here but I think Microsoft could try to do the same thing, and then we BOTH (Mac + PC) will have locked, worthless machines that can't run 3rd-party software except what THEY allow, MOCKING the whole computer industry as we know it.


    Thanks for reading this far in the new, revised thread.
    Comment and share your thoughts about the whole Mac lockdown. It's coming. Maybe not now, not later, but soon. It's inevitable. Also note, the votes never expire, please consider sharing your opinion and voting. Thanks!

    EDIT: Major changes and corrections to the entire post.
  2. Tkf1 Community Development Team

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    I don't think so. Yeah no.
  3. Xenonmagnum Community Development Team

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    This ^^

    Sounds like a crackpot scheme dreamt up by a 12 year old with a less than avid imagination... I won't even bother pointing out the reasons why this wouldn't happen as there are so many; I wouldn't know where to start.
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  4. samw40 Well-Known Member

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    I was about to read it, but then I took some sense to the head.
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  5. Xenonmagnum Community Development Team

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    I got about a third of the way into it until I realized what I was reading...
  6. ia24 Well-Known Member

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    Lol no. Honestly I like Apple for Macs more than iDevices as they are right now, as do many people. They wouldn't ruin the business.
  7. qwasedral Banned

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    Sounds like a load of bull.
  8. iBricked Well-Known Member

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    Yeah......not in a million years. This is StereoTypical Anti-Apple BullBrownies
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  9. lauNchD Well-Known Member

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    IMO, Apple will be more restrictive by default (see Gatekeeper), because these restrictions won't actually harm your average consumer/user. Forcing a code signature by default will probably help prevent malware, because people won't be able to install trojans disguised as fake Flash Players they got from shady porn sites anymore. All the software your average user needs will be signed (Mail, Safari, Office, …)

    However, if Apple wouldn't include an option to disable Gatekeeper, etc., a lot of their original customers would be incredibly pissed off, since they wouldn't be able to use their old software (I don't think Adobe will feel like signing CS3 now…) or experiment with their systems. Why would Apple want to piss people off who got people to buy more Macs in the first place? It's pointless! Most bad press from malware comes from non-savvy users anyway, so why not require a signature by default with an option to turn off that "feature"?
  10. Xenonmagnum Community Development Team

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    Anyone that thinks this is clearly an idiot, I won't even bother elaborating especially when all the reasons are so obvious.

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