Another one bites the Dust... the iPod still Rules there's is lots and lots of Posts Coming in about, the Zii beating the iPod 3gs, about the Zune HD beating the iPod touch ect... here's my answer to all; Q. why would anyone just forget about the Apple iPod's , while buying a PMP? A. They Wouldn't, apple has sold the most Mp3 players, against other Companies like Sony, and has had the Most Envious Phone on the Planet, the iPhone. the iPod touch is essentially an iPhone with out GPS and phone capabilities. Q. the Zii has a HD camera and a small front facing one. what does the ipod have? A) can't say Q. the Zune has HD radio, does the iPod have this Feature? A. can't say Q. is the iPod best for the Size for the Buck? A. IF and thats a big if, the ipod touch releases at 189.99 for a 16GB, yes it would be 10 pound higher If not the Zii would rule. Q. does the ipod touch have a SD card slot A. Can't say, but it'll be very low Chance Q. does the Zii have a great App store were you can buy a millon Great apps for at most (on average) £4.99 A. No Q. can you jailbreak the Zii or Zune to stick 3rd party Apps, like Winterboard and SBsettings. A. no Q. does the Zii have longer battery life then the iPod touch 3G A. can't say, but with the GPS chip and two Camera, the Zii will most probably have less. iF you want to argue any more question's at me, i can take it. but the iPod will always have the Best GUI always have the Best Software, Always Have the Better Made Product, Always have Load of Attachments, Always have Loads of Fans to help you out when thing all go wrong.