Hello i am new here as you can see Please Register or Log in to view images Ipod touch 32 gig 3g MC Model Here is my situation as of now After much trial & error i finally managed to downgrade from 4.02 to 4.0 (windows 7) umbrella and i tunes 8 or 9 Red snow_0.9.3 with Ipod3,1_3.1.2_7D11_Restore.ispw Success Finally i was able to see cydia icon. i was able to install ssh and i logged in, via winscp i put a few games and themes in. and yxflash. How ever i ran into a few problems using category program,w/nav black. i had acidently deleted some apps while trying to move icons into categories and for some reason when i tried to install the apps again like yxflash it never showed on screen even after i reinstalled it, neither did some of the others. So what i did was i chose to erase settings of the ipiod not knowing i wiped out the entire OS i was almost in tears,but did some reading on how i can recover it with itunes. So i did and was back at 4.02 again.(smiles) Now today i was able to get back to 4.0 But my problem is this Each time i do red snow,i get hung up on that usb stick screen and it never boots. Nor do i get cydia and i can not ssh into my system since i dont have ssh instlled this time around i can not winscp or putty. BlackRa1n always tell me it jail broke my system but i never see any evidence of it on screen nor do i get cydia. i am sure some one here with much more knowledge can help me get around this. As much as i am suffering from all agnony i also seem to get excited about it all at the same time. i thank you in advance.