I jailbreaked my iTouch 16 gb with ziphone v2.5c. My touch was on 1.1.4 installed through itunes 220.127.116.11 (NO restore) and loaded with 15 GB of music + i paid for the January apps. I unplugged my iPod and did a restart. Now i plugged it again in. Then i started ZiPhone v2.5c . I hit the jailbreak button and i got in to the loop bsd root error Please Register or Log in to view images. I opened iTunes but in this state iTunes refuses to restore my itouch (the iTouch wont show up in itunes). So i opened Help/Run diagnostics in iTunes and i did all the tests and as soon the test sequence was over imiditly my itouch get passed the bsd root error and did the jailbreak without a hasetate. So after 5 days everything is still as it was before and everything like my playlists, installer, APlogger, Inewsgroup and the rest of the apps works perfect , even WinSCP performs a fine job Please Register or Log in to view images. So maybe i im lucky but still i i wone share it with you folks.